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To caveat the thing about loud engines potentially meaning less street races, you'll then have NIMBYs wanting race tracks closed because the 3 bed 2 bath house they bought to charge $4000/mo rent to their tenants is opposite the main straight

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If they’re going to do away with hybrids completely (even though I highly doubt it’ll actually happen) then I’d prefer it if the engine regulations were a bit more free. Like in the late 80s when the turbo era was on its way out they capped the boost pressure to slow the turbos down and allowed the lower end teams to use V8s and V10s as a cheaper alternative

3 cylinder Daihatsu Charade made epic noise. V8 & V10 belong to the past. It's time was.

This regulation could also be a small step towards an even newer future redesign, they could consider many of the following changes: v angle (60, 72, 90), engine layout (i4, i5, i6, ,vr6, v6, v8, v10, v12, w12), forced induction (na, turbo, twin turbo, compound turbo, supercharging, twin charging), valve control & number (vvt, vvl, camless, 4+), engine & piston material (cgi, other new/exotic alloy, steel, forged, cast), compression ratio (any), fuel injector (number, number of holes), spark plug (number or none at all, material), transmisson (cvt, dct). I think there's actually many design changes that could be provided towards the manufacturer to design the engines that they would like, and also engine design evolve constantly (1900s i4 were quite rightly different than 2020s i4).

World can move away from diesel but i have owned only diesel cars. 5th one now. When i had 3rd diesel i said next one will be petrol, then hybrid. Well i can keep saying that till the end i suppose at this rate.

Second in the championship in 1998, a race winner multiple times, I’d hardly call him a flop. I feel like the word for Coulthard is “unheralded.”

make the friggin cars smaller holy

If this is true then FOM should just bin off 2026 regulations and keep the current regulations until 2030. It doesn't make a lick of sense to bring in those 2026 regulations and then switch to V8s four years later. I would like to see synthetic fuel explored further though. I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure that is the fuel that is used in the WRC and WEC so I wouldn't be opposed to F1 looking into it too. (Also does WWE still refer to their fans as the 'WWE Universe'? I thought they would have scrapped that now Vince isn't there anymore. It was a lame term in 2014 and it's still lame now!)

We are backkkk

In 2050 the FIA want Grannies will be used to pull F1 cars round Monaco for the Sprint Race.

Oh god I hope this is true. Started following F1 in 94 and stopped when the v6 vacuum cleaner engines came in. The screaming V8s 10s and 12s added so much emotion and excitement to race weekends.

Rose tinted glasses - the curse of fans of anything.

The distinctive engine sound was a big part of the F1 experience and it was a given. No matter what happened in the race there was something impressive to talk about. Nowadays that isn't the case anymore and there is no valid reason for it. F1 engines weren't that much road relevant anyways so dropping the MGU-H and the turbo for more cylinders won't matter to the industry. As for batteries being the future, it's not going to be the case unless some revolutionary discovery happens in the field which is quite unlikely. Consumers and especially companies started to realize this and that's why these kind of talks started.

A couple of years ago I found a channel that has been uploading "classic" seasons(?) I ate up from '01 to currently '05 and it has been crack for my nostalgia. Yes, the sound does the job, but I think I'm more drawn to the fact that the races weren't about having to manage degrading tyres/energy/drs. The only good thing F1 has done in the last decade its reliability. Imagine '03 and '04 if Williams and McLaren would'n blown up every other race! Love your stuff! Cheers from Argentina!

I wish motorsport would get over this real world relevance crap. No one has bought a road car based on race results or technology since the 70s. They aren't fooling anyone.

Yes, undoubtly for me

So i really don`t get it, going for another combustion engine rule set when 5 years later hole europe prohibits new registrations of these cars. Fia has a series they need to push, that´s formula e. The future of hole motorsport relies of keepeng these series a life.

awesome video, can't see it happeneing but you never know

Make em giant slot cars, with chicken wire above the track.

Extreme Championship Racing! Sounds awesome.

Watch the video of the Alfa Romeo DTM V6 and hear how a V6 can scream like a V8 or V10! Removing the MGU-H is going to increase the sound!

I went to one, ONE, Formula E race during the first season (Miami). If the sound is a driver for bringing people to the races, then these slot cars are NOT the future! LOL

Bring back *V12s* ! Honestly, I was never disappointed by the sounds of the hybrid era cars. It's the elitism of not letting Andretti in and blocking the view of the track from residents' view in vegas, the cost cap hypocrisy of changing the regulations on a whim and adding too many races, and, the pay wall that meant I haven't seen a race live on tv in possibly a decade when I used to watch religiously in the terrestrial tv coverage days, that made me eventually think "what's the point?!" So, this year, I deliberately unsubscribed from any f1 specific channels on RUclips and ignored what is going on in f1 this year. I don't know how many races there have been, where they've been or who's won what. I know Monaco is on around this time because it's always in May after the cannes film festival. But my point is I don't care about the future of f1 anymore. WEC and IMSA are thriving right now and that's where I'm getting my motorsport fix from these days.

Drive to survive makes it a lot more exciting than it actually is...people say early 2000's were amazing...but Schumacher won 5 titles in a row...the dominance of teams.....ferrari, Mercedes, red bull....make it boring....V6, V8, V10, V12....whatever, the sport needs to be closer..more competitive...more manufacturers... engine noise won't make a difference if the show is crap

If we want noise it also needs to be naturally aspirated. Just listen to the Porsche 963 LMDh car, it's a V8 but the turbo makes it sound completely unimpressing. Also apparently the current V6s have slightly uneven firing orders because of a 90 degree V-angle but no split crank journals. If they allowed that they might sound slightly better. After all there are many 6 cylinder engines in road cars that sound great so it doesn't have to suck And btw, on the topic of the V10 era being boring, just look at the stats, until Schumi's reign it was someone different winning almost every year and there were great championship fights. How many good years have we had since 2014, maybe like 3 if I'm generous? Of course not every race and not every season was exciting back in the 90s either but that's just how motorsports are. At least there was a technological arms race so it was never a given who would be fastest even in different parts of a season, never mind next season. This simply doesn't exist anymore. F1 is dying a slow and painful death because of cost caps, no testing during season, and an overly strict formula that kills innovation, and despite all this we don't even have an even playing field like a spec or BoP formula does, it's the worst of both worlds.

They absolutely MUST ban DRS. I came to watch racing, not leapfrog.

Introducing V8s to keep the rents low is really funny.

The high RPM V10s and so on were always a + for F1. I am sure if the current generation of F1 fans had some of that hair-raising on the back of your neck noise. It would be a big + again in the sport.

Another great video and wonderful points, but I think there is something untrue about the narrative that people only want the old engines back for noise and nostalgia. A bigger part is that a sport is most entertaining when it's relatable. I don't mean like "that's the same as my car on the road", but more "people try to race car fastest". No one loves DRS, but at least it's a clear physical thing. But no one gets excited about cars harvesting and releasing extra energy, because it's all hidden computer tech. We don't want a tech demo where we have to wait for the computer readout later, when surely the simple racing of cars is better, so we can just enjoy the sport viscerally. As brought to us by our eyes, not as brought to us be AWS. So I'd rather whatever the best mix of simple/fast/competitive is, so the driving can speak, and one engine is surely better than a power unit of many parts. Must say though, again, beautifully researched video and basically 99% agree on everything 😅

F1 is another glaring example of the madness and stupidity that dominates the Corporate world today. Desperately chasing fairy tales of perpetual growth. Constantly stripping cost and value, while demanding more and more from diminishing resources. Many of us will be experiencing this mentality in our day jobs... It will only end in us consuming ourselves.

Your commentary makes WEC sound way more exciting than F1 at the moment. I'll have to catch up.

As Someone who grew up watching 90's Motorsports like F1, DTM/ITC, BTC, Ralley etc. and enjoying it back then. Compared to today were i ve 0 interest in it, and i dont think it is the Sound, Sound is just a small Part except u are present at the Track then it has more Impact. For Me its the Sensation of Speed, i feel like Motorsport got way to clean. Cars are much more stable, have more Grip, better Aero etc. while the Power has not increased. From an Oberserver Perspective its like watching a "Carrera Race". There might be Some other major Changes needed to get young People interested in to the Sport. Maybe change the overall Duration of the Race or split it into 3 Parts/Races. Shorter and more Action packed and inbetween the Brakes maybe some other Entertainment or Race Class going. 2H Races with little Action and Overtakes will not excite young People. Anyways, good Video. And i agree, these constant Rule Changes are a Middle Finger to the Teams and Manufacturer.

Fuel pit stops bring excitement back to racing (The unknown) V8, V10, V12 N/A with hybrid on Biofuel!!!! F1 soul is the sound, end of debate!!!!

Quite honestly, if F1 wants to keep manufacturers engaged, it might be smarter to go with what is current, IE, turbo 3 and 4 cylinder hybrids. Make it somewhat open, IE, engine layout. As fans we might get to see boxers, V’s and inlines. Little bit of the old days without using obsolete engine designs

The problem with changing the rules in order to stop a team being dominant is that it stops being a competition any more. It becomes Sports Entertainment, as you mentioned with the WWE. When Floyd Mayweather was going 50-0 in his career, the boxing orgs didn’t make him wear heavier gloves and ankle weights in order to give the other guy a chance. When Tom Brady was winning his rings with the Patriots the NFL didn’t change the rules every year to try and ban the clever plays the Pats were-oh wait they did do that. Dominance is part and parcel of pure competition. If the other teams whine about another team being better, you just have to tell them to Git Gud.

In F1 2014 the Mercedes sounds like a sick lawnmower, it's terrible.

Whatever they do, the main thing I would like to see is closer racing with more teams and drivers having a chance of winning. This year, it seems the battles for 3th-9th are far more interesting. I do agree that F1 should be a no holds barred formula, pushing the cars to go round as fast as possible. I hope the result in Miami isn't an exception. As for "Drive to Survive," I've lost interest. It's mainly down to the amount of drama they try to infuse into it. I'd rather watch the race.

Great show Aiden and why not a supercharged v10. That would sound awesome 😎

I'll never drive an electric car, and I love my manual transmission. I refuse to give up gas or gears I can shift. If I have to buy old cars to keep that, then that's all there is to it.

14:06 here is the only important bit in the video ;)

Chicago was never signed off on and it the twitter account in question took down that post very quickly after it was denied by the people in the sport who matter.

I watched the "good old days". Tyres screaming is way better to hear than engines screaming. Remember the first season of the hybrids when they were really quiet? Any car getting remotely sideways You could hear. I think FOM tv filters that out a lot these days, which is a shame. It would add to the viewing experience.

I remember driving through Toronto during the Toronto Honda Indy race. Well, okay, free practice. I was on the highway above Lakeshore. You're wrong about the sound of IndyCar these days. It's still loud, and it's still shrill and high pitched. Not a 2004 F1 car but yeah...

Honestly I'm disappointed by the killing of the MGU-H. They really do add efficiency to the vehicles. If we abort them out of F1, then the technology will end up completely stillborn and it'll never "trickle down" into anything. This made even more complicated by the double-speak that F1 claims they're removing it to intice new teams, and then immediately backtrack this and make it nearly impossible for new teams to join. As for "road relevance", F1 is supposed to be the pinnacle of motorsport, not the pinnacle of road going crapboxes. Also, am I the only person in the room who doesn't hate the sound the current engines make? That said, I agree with the idea of opening the engine formula. The entire hard strict rule on what you can use to power your car just isn't in the spirit of F1 pushing the limits of innovation. If you want more efficiency, just... set tighter efficiency rules and let the teams solve the problem themselves. I also agree with the commentary for smaller, lighter cars. That'll go further towards helping the racing than anything involving V10s. I think I speak for the majority of motorsports fans when I say I'd rather awesome racing with cars that sound like Hoovers than processional boring laps being lazily run by V10s. Then again that's probably why I've watched more Formula E races than I have Formula 1 races..... and before you at me, yes, Formula E cars sound awesome in their own unique way.

Here is my take on it, the FIA could have the perfect set up for manufacturers, Formula E for those that want to do electric, WEC for hybrids and F1 just pure combustion engines.

Not often noted is the awe-inspiring silence of a quarter million people when we honor our fallen soldiers during pre-race ceremonies.

It's crazy that they'd rather race on yet another godawful street circuit to rouse Midwestern race fans when Indy is *right there*

The lack of noise isn't about the lack of cylinders, it's because the mg uh is trapping all the stuff that makes the noise. Lose the mg uh and they'll sound great again.

I was totally with you played the "fewer street circuts" card. Do it!!